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Thursday, April 06, 2006

Prochoice arguments from the horses mouth.

I'd like to offer some examples of the pro-choice mindset. These are all quotes taken off an online youth community. These people are memebers of the "pro-choice guild"

On men having a say in the abortion of their child:

No dice, Frodo. Asking to have a man decide if a woman can abort because she concieved during consentual sex is to turn her into a slave to her biology. He's not the one pregnant. He's not carrying it. He's not at risk for all the dangers of pregnancy. He's not doing the work, and it's been shown that it's not a half and half deal since some DNA is purely maternal. If he wants his DNA that badly, he can have half of the abortion products in a baby food jar. Offering to care for it after coming out means a woman pregnant against her will, which is all kinds of f**ked up.

It sucks, yes it does. But it also sucks that people seem to think that a woman's uterus is up for public debate.

On quality vs. quantity of life:

But don't you know? A miserable life where you're starved, tortured, sickly, and are beaten and broken and have no will to live is better than no life at all!

Remember folks, its quanity that counts, not quality.

On Liberal Persecution:
It takes guts in today's political climate to openly support a "liberal" political position.

If you oppose bush, as the dixie chicks did a few years ago, you're ostracised.

If you support gay rights people assault you.

With the exceptionally large christian movement that's been going on, defending any liberal position is becoming a hazardous occupation.

It makes me wonder where that whole "christian persecution" complex comes from where they think there's a war on christianity, when day in and day out their morals are becoming law, they're being catered to by politicians, etc.

On disabled or premature children:
My paper argued for limiting aggressive treatment to infants born after 23 weeks gestation. However, I did say that exceptions should be made for younger infants who are particularly hardy and/or more developed. Another argument that I covered was respect for the wishes of parents. The parents are the ones who will ultimately live with whatever decisions are made and thus should choose the options that they feel they can deal with. Many, many children who are born with low birthweights go on to develop several problems that can make caring for them extremely taxing both financially and emotionally. There have been several documented cases in which the strains placed on a couple from rearing a severely damaged child caused an eventual divorce.

And another interesting tidbit that I stumbled across in my research: I had always thought that Downs wasn't quite such a big deal and that it only caused mental retardation. Ho-boy was I wrong. Many victims of the disorder die before their 10th birthday and hardly any make it past 50. The disease is also accompanied by a whole host of physical defects such as heart disease, esophageal atresia, and tracheoesophageal fistula. Some of the physical ailments can be corrected with surgery, but oftentimes the child will require additional surgeries over the years which will lead to more pain and hardship, but no real improvement in the quality of life. From what I read, the Downs individuals that you see smiling and having a fulfilling existance are in the minority.

On choosing only genetically superior children:
And if these advances can wipe out genetic disease then why the hell not?"Munkers"

There are about a billion others but those are just from clicking at random topics. Do these people seem "caring" to you?

Gaia Online Pro-Choice Guild Posting in said guild is forbidden as it is on an applicant basis, however it is publically viewable.


  • I think they are caring. Rationale and pragmatic, but not at all unfeeling. Being "caring" but offering solutions that are untenable or unworkable really isn't very ethical, as far as I'm concerned.

    By Blogger Sara, at 2:57 PM  

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